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HD TV Camcorder?
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ypauls
2004-01-20 05:20:10 UTC
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Dear Video Expert
Though I have been a Sony DV camcorder user for over a year, and happy
with the results on my 27" regular tube TV, what camera is needed to
produce satisfactory results on a 40" plasma HD TV?
Is there one?
Cordially
ypauls
dylan_j
2004-01-20 10:59:07 UTC
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Post by ypauls
Dear Video Expert
Though I have been a Sony DV camcorder user for over a year, and happy
with the results on my 27" regular tube TV, what camera is needed to
produce satisfactory results on a 40" plasma HD TV?
Is there one?
Cordially
ypauls
look at the JVC GR-HD1

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/jvc_grhd1_fi_camcorder_review.htm

Dylan
brian a. henderson
2004-01-25 18:14:07 UTC
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The only one you'd be interested in taking on vacation with you is the
JVC-GRHD1. I think there is still some debate as to weather it's true HD
though from what I understand. You might be happier with a 3 chip DV
camcorder like a Sony TRV-950 or VX-2100 or some thing like that.

-Brian
dylan_j
2004-01-28 13:45:55 UTC
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Post by brian a. henderson
The only one you'd be interested in taking on vacation with you is the
JVC-GRHD1. I think there is still some debate as to weather it's true HD
though from what I understand. You might be happier with a 3 chip DV
camcorder like a Sony TRV-950 or VX-2100 or some thing like that.
-Brian
Both the sony cameras make widescreen by cropping the widescreen
image, that mean on a 16x9 HD screen that the image would be blown up
by 250%. That would look much worse than a 1 chip MPEG2 image from the
JVC, which would have the same format (but higher bitrate) and
resolution as HD broadcast footage

Dylan
Moving Vision
2004-01-28 16:19:41 UTC
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The Sony's provide a true anamorphic option, not a mere crop. The do it
by cropping the bottom and top 12.5% of the image and then stretching
the rest into 16x9 ratio. Therefore the loss in resolution compared to
the 4x3 image is 25%, down to 405 lines from 540. Doesn't seem that long
ago we used to crow about how wonderful 400 lines were!
--
John Lubran
david.mccall
2004-01-28 17:32:30 UTC
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Post by dylan_j
Post by brian a. henderson
The only one you'd be interested in taking on vacation with you is the
JVC-GRHD1. I think there is still some debate as to weather it's true HD
though from what I understand. You might be happier with a 3 chip DV
camcorder like a Sony TRV-950 or VX-2100 or some thing like that.
-Brian
Both the sony cameras make widescreen by cropping the widescreen
image, that mean on a 16x9 HD screen that the image would be blown up
by 250%. That would look much worse than a 1 chip MPEG2 image from the
JVC, which would have the same format (but higher bitrate) and
resolution as HD broadcast footage
This would be more of a concern, if the scaling was done from a 720 x 486
(NTSC) chip, but many cameras have chips of much higher resolution, so this
is not nearly the problem that it once was. I have not studied the VX-2100,
but
as near as I can tell, the 950 uses a 944 X 528 section of the array for 16
X 9,
and 944 X 708 for 4 X 3. The array used for Still mode is 1152 X 864. So,
even though a larger section of the array is used for 4 x 3, the array used
for
16 X 9 is still larger than the resolution of the image output. The PDX-10
seems
to use the same chips, but uses an even larger array for 16 X 9. I did a
little web
page to help explain what I think I was able to learn about this at
http://www.techshop.net/PDX-10/

I don't know how big the arrays are for the VX-2100 or PDX-170.

David

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